Published by Andy Neckar
P.O. Box J Hico, TX 76457
Vol. 7, Number 4 July-August. 2001
Editor-Andy Neckar

Inside This Newsletter

2. Southern Baptist Regional Associations and State and National Conventions.
3. Ole George W. Bush.

By Andy Neckar

There is only one life to live here on this earth.  How we live THIS life and the decisions we make here in THIS life hangs our ETERNAL destiny.  How we live THIS life determines HOW and WHERE we will spend the REST OF OUR ETERNAL LIVES.  Folks, that’s saying a LOT about THIS life.  Makes me shutter.   Makes me examine myself in fear and trembling. (2 Cor 13:15; Phil 2:12)  WHY?  Because  “…I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway” [rejected, reprobate]. (1 Cor 9:27)

Now what do I mean by THAT?

2 Cor 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Well-I “examine” myself.   I try myself. I prove myself.  A repeated action.  I keep on keeping on examining myself.  Hey, too much hangs in the outcome.  Just WHERE will I spend eternity? There are only two ETERNAL dwelling places.  There is HEAVEN and there is the LAKE OF FIRE.  There are places in heaven that was prepared for God’s angels, and Jesus will take GOD’S children there to be with HIM. (John 14:2-3)  Where God’s angels and Jesus is, God’s children will be too.

The everlasting lake of fire was prepared for the devil and “his” angels: AND his children.  Where the devil is, “his” children will be there too.

The apostle Paul, speaking as the Holy Spirit leads, says, check and see if you REALLY are a child of God. Are you in the faith? Do you really belong to "the household of faith"?  He says, “Is Christ REALLY in you, or are you a reprobate?”  We can know, you know. (1 John 5:13)  We can KNOW by EXAMINING ourselves.

Phil 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

If you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ in FAITH and have come to REPENTANCE before God, then you are saved from the eternal fires prepared for the devil and his angels “and” his children. (John 8:44)   Now that you are saved, WORK.  Work on/out your salvation.  WORK in fear and trembling, not arrogantly.  Why not arrogantly?  Because “…if the righteous “scarcely” be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?” (1 Pet 4:18)  Why Work?  Because…”we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk (be occupied with them-do them) in them. (Eph 2:10)  This all boils down to WORKING and GROWING in faith AFTER salvation, and not FOR salvation.  We WORK to GROW, BECAUSE we are saved.

King David, the man after God’s own heart (Acts 13:22) says, “For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin is ever before me. (Ps 51:3)  I was a sinner from WAY BACK. “…I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. (Ps 51:5)  Now that’s going WAY BACK.  Once I was a dirty, rotten, no good piece of scum.  A DRUNKEN piece of scum.  I will always regret “those days of my life”.  Those days will be ever before me for “the rest of my life.”  I know where I came from, (that keeps me humble) and the GOOD NEWS is that I KNOW WHERE I AM GOING.  I KNOW because, “ … I KNOW whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day. (2 Tim 1:12)  I KNOW because I practice 2 Cor 13:5 and Phil 2:12.

What will YOU do with TODAY? Is Christ REALLY in you?  If He is, are you WORKING and GROWING?  THIS LIFE will not last forever. Take advantage of it.  What you do with THIS life has ETERNAL consequences.

Remember, TODAY is the FIRST DAY of the REST OF YOUR LIFE. 


Southern Baptist Regional Associations and State and National Conventions.
A Corporate Business Venture

 The ordination of a woman minister at a church in Gainesville, Fla., has sparked a dispute that may force the congregation out of the Santa Fe River Baptist Association.

Lynn Williams,  minister of education and students at Parkview Baptist Church, was ordained Jan. 7. In response, three churches alleged that the Gainesville congregation is out of fellowship with the association and called for its removal.

The churches, First Baptist Church of Archer, Santa Fe Baptist Church of Alachua, and Parker Road Baptist Church of Gainesville, say Williams' ordination goes against the new "Baptist Faith and Message" statement adopted by the Southern Baptist Convention last year.

The faith statement reads in part, "While both men and women are gifted for service in the church, the office of pastor is limited to men as qualified by Scripture." While members of the committee drafting the new language said it was intended to address only women as senior pastors, some are reading it as applying to all ordained ministers.

Wayne Harvey, the association's director of missions, stated that the association had "not established any statement of faith," which includes never having endorsed the 2000 "Baptist Faith and Message." But Parkview's opponents claim that a section in the association's bylaws automatically puts the congregation out of fellowship.

The section states, "The association reserves the right to withdraw membership from any church found to be out of fellowship with the association, the Florida Baptist Convention, or the Southern Baptist Convention in their doctrine, principles, practices, policies, and programs, and deny voting privileges and seats to messengers from such churches."

Critics say that Parkview's ordination of Williams goes against the policies of the SBC and thus violates the association's bylaws.

[Editor]  This tidbit of information was gleaned from the July 19, 2001 - Volume: 01-57 Associated Baptist Press.

I notice how the article says that the Williams' ordination goes against the new "Baptist Faith and Message" statement. Williams' ordination goes against recent  “corporate policy” rather than God’s Word. Folks, God’s Word has been “commanding” what the recent Southern Baptist statement “avows” from the VERY BEGINNING of the CHURCH.

Members of the committee drafting the new language said it was intended to address only women as “senior” pastors?  Did God ordain higher ranking, further up the ladder, superior, chief, most important elders.  Are leaders to lead by “prominent positions” of authority or as Christ lead?  BY EXAMPLE.

Folks, these aren’t New Testament Churches.  These are Corporate Offices of the coming One World Church.  You have the corporate CEO in the associational and conventional churches.  You have Billy Graham, the Southern Baptist Pope.  Heads of state visit him the same as they do the Catholic Pope.   Then you have the “senior” pastors, which is the equivalent of a Catholic Bishop.  You have the Roman Catholic “College of Cardinals that determine church policies and belief systems.  You have the Southern Baptist “Convention Delegates” that determine church policies and belief systems.  Get the picture?

The section states, "The association reserves the right to withdraw membership from any church found to be out of fellowship with the association, the Florida Baptist Convention, or the Southern Baptist Convention in their doctrine, principles, practices, policies, and programs, and deny voting privileges and seats to messengers from such churches."

The above sounds like the bylaws of some Corporate Stockholders meeting.  The “church” is conducting “business”, because IT IS a “business”

You may wonder why I concentrate on Southern Baptist and Independent Baptist churches so.  This is so, because when I came out of the Roman Catholic Church system I entered the Baptist system.  I concentrate on things that I am familiar with.  I “oppose” and “expose” ERROR in the Baptist system, and downright LIES in the Roman Catholic system.  I concentrate on my CALLING, and when God CALLS, He EQUIPS. 

You know how many people have come out of the denominational church system as the result of CNV articles and the web site?  I don’t know either, but folks; from the amount of mail I receive, it’s a BUNCH.

This ole dog is BARKING, (Isaiah 56:10) and this ole watchman is crying WOLF. (Acts 20:29-31)  He sees wolves IN AMONGST the flock.  YOU can’t chase HIM out.  YOU get out.   Come out of her my people says the Lord your God. (Rev 18:4)

Ole George W. Bush.
Did you know there is a HUGH DIFFERENCE between political conservatism, patriotism, spirituality, religiosity, a degree of morality, and SALVATION?

Okay! How ‘bout one who has these constructive features except ONE?  How ‘bout one who attempts to straddle the fence between the two main forces of the universe?  These two forces would be GOOD and EVIL.

How ‘bout the leader of the most powerful nation on this earth; a man who calls himself a “child of God” doing his very best to please “his own interests” by weighting what OUR GOD has already decided?  How ‘bout him? 

How ‘bout George W. Bush?  Are YOU his brother in the Lord?  By his FRUIT we shall KNOW him.

Matt 7:20 Wherefore by their (his) fruits (works) ye shall know them. (him)

Matt 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree (man) is known by his fruit. (works)

What kind of fruit did George W. publicly announce that he bore in his heart a few nights ago?

Ole George works EVIL in GOD’S NAME.  Did Bill Clinton ever invoke God’s blessings on America while working evil?  If he ever did, I don’t remember.  Bill Clinton was a WOLF in the Whitehouse wearing WOLF’S clothing.

What do you think of a WOLF in the Whitehouse wearing SHEEP’S clothing?

By the way.  The President is a United Methodist.  The UMC is a “pro –choice” denomination.  Check it out.

Folks, I am going on a vacation beginning August 12th and returning August 17th late evening.  I’m going to the mountains of New Mexico.  I need a little cooling off period AND a little R&R.

Actually, I could use a DOUBLE DOSE of R&R.  Rest and relaxation AND righteous ruling.  I can get the first in the mountains of New Mexico, but the second can only come through/from/by JESUS CHRIST.

A subscriber in East Texas send me the following the other day.  Enjoy.

20 Rules
1.  The best way to get even is to forget...
2.  Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death...
3.  God wants spiritual fruit, not religious nuts...
4.  Some folks wear their halos much too tight...
5.  Some marriages are made in heaven, but they ALL have to be maintained on earth...
6.  Unless you can create the WHOLE universe in FIVE DAYS, then perhaps giving "advice" to God isn't such a good idea!
7.  Sorrow looks back, worry looks around, and faith looks up...
8.  Standing in the middle of the road is dangerous. You will get knocked down by the traffic from both ways.
9.  Words are windows to the heart.
10.  A skeptic is a person who when he sees the handwriting on the wall claims it's a forgery.
11.  It isn't difficult to make a mountain out of a molehill, just add a little dirt.
12.  A successful marriage isn't finding the right person; it's being the right person.
13.  The mighty oak tree was once a little nut that held its ground.
14.  Too many people offer God prayers with claw marks all over them.
15.  The tongue must be heavy indeed because so few people can hold it.
16.  To forgive is to set the prisoner free, and then discover the prisoner was you.
17.  You have to wonder about humans - they think God is dead and Elvis is alive!
18.  It's all right to sit on your pity pot every now and again.  Just be sure to flush when you are done.
19.  You'll notice that a turtle only makes progress when it sticks out its neck...
20.  If the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, you can bet the water bill is higher.

You are richer today if you have laughed, given, or forgiven.

Take care folks and may God JUDGE America


The Lord’s Prayer has been translated into the language of the text message as part of a new scheme to send church services to worshippers on their mobile phones.

“Our Father, who art in heaven” has become “dad@hvn” while “forgive us our trespasses” is rendered as “4give r sins”.

Other prayers, readings and meditations are also to be translated to give worshippers an entire service in text message format. The idea is the latest attempt to bring Christianity to a generation that is too busy to go to church.

The Muslim community has already seen the benefits of text-messaging believers with their five daily “calls to prayer”.

The mobile phone church services will be launched by the satirical Christian website at the Greenbelt arts and music festival in Cheltenham next month.

It is hoped that young people at the festival will sit down and stop what they are doing when their messages arrive, and even read them out to friends around them, to create a new form of simultaneous virtual worship. If successful the experiment could be extended. The idea came from a religious service conducted by text messages recently in Hanover, Germany.

The Lord’s Prayer, the first part of the liturgy to be translated, was conceived after an on-line competition to find the best version. It had to be cut from 372 characters to 160 or fewer without losing anything important. Matthew Campbell, a history student at York University, came up with the accepted version.

Simon Jenkins, the editor of, which is accessed by thousands of Christians worldwide, said: “We’re fascinated by the collision between traditional Christianity and popular culture . . . It is an experimental form of virtual worship.”

The Lord’s Prayer
dad@hvn, urspshl.we want wot u want&urth2b like hvn.giv us food&4giv r sins lyk we 4giv uvaz.don’t test us!save us!bcos we kno ur boss,ur tuf&ur cool 4 eva!ok?

[Editor]  Talk about adding and taking way? (Rev 22:19)  Virtual worship?  Experiential worship?  How ‘bought a “tried & true” hell?  These folks are “virtually” there already.  HOME is where the HEART is.  I recon you know where these hypocrites’ hearts are.

I wonder; does ANYBODY know what a church service is supposed to be?  Well, let me say that there is NO SUCH THING as a CHURCH SERVICE.  Some synonyms for service are; ceremony, ritual. observance, formal procedure.   MY Bible says the CHURCH/Body of Christ should ASSEMBLE TOGETHER. (Heb 10:25)

Why are Christians to do this?
Heb 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works.

Eph 5:19-21 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

Col 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

1 Cor 14:26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

These are SOME of the reasons we come together. We also come together to celebrate the Death, Burial and Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Lord’s Supper).

How do we worship God?
John 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

John 4:23-24 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Phil 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

Remember when the Gentiles were called “dogs”. (Matt 7:6; 15:26) Dogs was a common Jewish term of reproach applied to Gentiles (non Jew) before they knew that salvation was also offered to the Gentiles. (Acts 11:18; 10:45; Rom 1:16)

Well, folks.  The “church” is going/has gone, to the dogs. Dogs that are without the camp are IN the church and are LEADING the church. 

Rev 22:14-15 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

“For without are dogs”.  Dogs IN the church but WITHOUT salvation.

The great falling away is HERE folks.  No buts about it.  The LAST DAYS are upon this generation.  God help us.


Skateboards, fireworks and Harleys are part of this year's Harvest Crusade.
(The Orange County Register –Florida July 3, 2001)

Lipslides. Flat banks. Pyramids. Grinds. Gospel? Is the New Testament out of place in this list of skateboard tricks?

Not if you're skateboarding for Jesus as professional boarders and local youths will do this week at the Harvest Crusade. The modern-day revival, running Wednesday through Sunday at Edison Field in Anaheim, is supported by 1,140 local churches and is expected to draw about 200,000 seekers.

"Many people would be surprised to know just how hungry kids are to hear biblical truths and be given a user's manual for life," says Pastor Greg Laurie.

The provocative Harvest Crusade preacher is a former hippie who rides a Harley and more often quotes movie stars and athletes than Matthew and Mark. By each revival's end, thousands vow to give their lives to God. Organizers say 130,280 people have responded to altar calls over the event's 11-year history.

Since 1989, the evangelical tent revival has packed 1,477,716 people into the Anaheim baseball stadium with its unconventional approach to bringing kids and others to Christ. Bumper stickers - 905,000 dispensed - and T-shirts - 148,000 sold - spread the word.

This year, professional skateboarder Richard Mulder and others are slated to appear Friday and Saturday. Fireworks and a fighter jet fly-over hit the skies Wednesday, and a Harley and car show take off on Sunday. All the action will be broadcast live on the Internet.

[Editor] The crusade is described as an unconventional, alternative, unusual, substitute, replacemenr approach to bring people to Christ, but there is only ONE way to do this.  The “gospel of Christ” which is REPENTANCE before God and FAITH towards the Lord Jesus Christ is the ONLY thing that has any SAVING power.

FAITH toward the Lord Jesus Chris is defined as BELIEVING ALL THAT IS SAID OF HIM as found in the WORD OF GOD, the BIBLE.   How that He died for our sins and rose again.

Quoted are movie stars and athletes more than Matthew and Mark, but movie stars and athletes are not the “power of God unto salvation, ”.(Rom 1:16) but then the “preaching must “cater to the kids”.  The interest of the kids must be emphasized. THIS must be the MAIN POINT.

It is said that thousands “vow to give their lives to God”. Organizers say 130,280 people have “responded to altar calls” over the event's 11-year history.

AGAIN; what is the POWER of GOD unto SALVATION?  Folks, it ain;t “alter calls” and it ain’t  “giving our lives to God”.  I got NEWS for these folks.  There ain’t NOTHING we can GIVE/OFFER God for our salvation. NOTHING. NO, not ANYTHING, ZERO, NIL, ZILCH, NAUGHT. Like…well, NUTIN.  AMEN?

See, there are “marketing strategists” and there are “gospel preachers,” and the bearer of the GOOD NEWS will not cooperate with a bunch of apostate churches to “look good” and “make a few bucks”.

People “Bike for Christ” and “Skateboard for Christ” and do “All Sorts of Things” for Christ, but OBEY Him.

Since I am “Alive in Christ”, I try to “Work for Christ”, and WORKING for Christ is not all FUN and GAMES. AMEN?

Oklahoma City Unites for Dawson Crusade
(Religion New Today-7/9/2001)

More than 100 churches from about a dozen denominations in Oklahoma City have united behind a Scott Dawson crusade effort, organizers say. Crusade organizers describe the "Hope for You" crusade as Oklahoma City's largest, most significant crusade since Billy Graham spoke there in 1983.

Dawson and several local crusade leaders will address “key issues and needs prevalent” in the greater Oklahoma City area. Dawson will “highlight the many school shootings” that have taken place over the past several years and how “similar acts of violence and anger” have escalated nationally, as evidenced by the Oklahoma City Bombing and “other crimes” and “social problems”. 

Plans and preparations for the 'Hope For You' Crusade have been in progress for about 10 months. Christians from many churches have been involved in evangelism training for this event, encouraging 'friendship evangelism' throughout the community. Presently 112 churches, representing various denominations throughout the Oklahoma City area, have participated across denominational  lines in working toward a successful crusade. 

[Editor]  There you have it folks.  “Highlight” emphasize, draw attention to, underline, stress, bring to light.  Folks, THIS is not the LIGHT a Godly preacher stresses. AWARENESS of SOCIAL issues is NOT the power of God unto salvation.

I get weary of STRESSING this sometimes and maybe you get weary of HEARING this sometimes, but I gotta do what I gotta do.   AMEN?

The KEY ISSUES and NEEDS for Oklahoma City are SOCIAL?  Lost sinners are not gonna socialize in hell, but people say, “forget about hell”, I want relief NOW.  They may forget about hell for NOW, but hell is not going away.  It’s there and it’s gonna be there ‘till it is cast into the lake of Fire.(Rev 20:24)

Various denominations; various belief systems, and various gospels and various means of obtaining the hope of salvation.   Various Jesus’, various rituals and sacraments and various positions in hell.  How sad.   And ALL THIS is done in the Name of Christ.

Come Lord Jesus and put a stop to all this crap.  For YOUR NAME SAKE and MY PEACE OF MIND. My mind is not at ease when folks make a mockery of my LORD, my SAVIOUR, my GOD.

My gosh, I had better shut up for now. (only “for now”).  I hear “housework” calling me.  I’m on disability and my wife Nita works. She and my daughter and two of my grandchildren are at Corpus Christi beach for a few days. (7/9/01)

See ya
Saint Andrew

We Must Earnestly Contend For The Faith-Jude 1:3